Ms Griffin, as a woman who has often been in your position, may I say you handled yourself admirably under the circumstances and I appreciated your input a great deal.
Thanks. I don't know if it helps to know that it's hardly the first time. It's not even that I'm against the idea of organization, but the concept set to "paper" wasn't one that would work for our group. We can't continue to fool ourselves into believing that we're a minority people in this world. In the loosest sense of the term, we are, but when you compare 50 to to 5 billion, that falls apart rather quickly. And that includes concepts of governing ourselves, which we're in no position to capably do. Not when a point such as us coming from fifty different worlds is completely overlooked in favor of reading my own experience and pointing out that they were trying to adhere to that, and how it wouldn't work.
[On her end, she breathes out. Stops herself from going on. It's been a little time for her, so she's unable to purely let go. More willing to talk now that she's had time.]
Sorry, I still have a lot to say.
But thank you for stepping in and speaking up for me. With Caroline and Hafid. [Because as much as Clarke "stepped away," she's not very good at that. These things will eat her alive.]
Of course. And you needn't apologise for speaking your mind. In my time, it was the belief women were meant to be seen and not heard and were often taken to task if they spoke out of turn. Obviously I don't ascribe to that ridiculous notion, then or now; so please, I'm glad to hear what you've got to say. Especially since I happen to agree with you.
It is an ambitious endeavour to unite a group as disparate as ours. In the loosest sense of the word, it's possible and not altogether a bad idea, especially when it comes to creating a safety net for new arrivals. But not everyone will be on board for a myriad of reasons big and small and it's important that we all feel we can speak openly about that — and that we don't feel we can speak for those who haven't gotten here yet. New arrivals ought to feel they can influence the idea as much as any of the rest of us. And hopefully the proposal will take the shape of something that everyone can benefit from and agree on.
But there's no need to discuss the point further. I imagine we're both a little weary of the subject.
[Peggy's right: speaking at length will only exhaust her. Clarke only has the energy for one long vent, feeling as if even that is expending too much emotional energy. She put a lot into what she had to say only to have it twisted and turned against her.]
You must be glad you're here, then. I learned about that mindset growing up in history lessons. Fortunately, when my people came together, we were a fairly good mix of individuals. Men and women. No one was assigned any single role or forced into a box. Survival came first, not those prejudices, and I think we were the better for it.
[Silver linings. But it was one thing that showed that they could put aside their differences and move forward.]
It didn't occur to me that that's where they're coming from, but I guess that's possible. In that way, I was always ... privileged enough to be able to speak with confidence. To feel as if I could. Or should.
I assure you I had no qualms doing the same no matter where or when I was. Much to the chagrin of the men in my office, I'm sure.
But dire circumstances often force people to abandon whatever notions they possess about what others should and shouldn't do. Naturally I don't need to tell you that.
Mine as well. I needed to get back to work [ both with the government and Morningstar, ] but I think everyone having some distance, given the disagreements, ended up being a good thing.
And here's to having a bit more distance from it. Are you free to meet after work tomorrow?
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[On her end, she breathes out. Stops herself from going on. It's been a little time for her, so she's unable to purely let go. More willing to talk now that she's had time.]
Sorry, I still have a lot to say.
But thank you for stepping in and speaking up for me. With Caroline and Hafid. [Because as much as Clarke "stepped away," she's not very good at that. These things will eat her alive.]
It means a lot.
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It is an ambitious endeavour to unite a group as disparate as ours. In the loosest sense of the word, it's possible and not altogether a bad idea, especially when it comes to creating a safety net for new arrivals. But not everyone will be on board for a myriad of reasons big and small and it's important that we all feel we can speak openly about that — and that we don't feel we can speak for those who haven't gotten here yet. New arrivals ought to feel they can influence the idea as much as any of the rest of us. And hopefully the proposal will take the shape of something that everyone can benefit from and agree on.
But there's no need to discuss the point further. I imagine we're both a little weary of the subject.
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You must be glad you're here, then. I learned about that mindset growing up in history lessons. Fortunately, when my people came together, we were a fairly good mix of individuals. Men and women. No one was assigned any single role or forced into a box. Survival came first, not those prejudices, and I think we were the better for it.
[Silver linings. But it was one thing that showed that they could put aside their differences and move forward.]
It didn't occur to me that that's where they're coming from, but I guess that's possible. In that way, I was always ... privileged enough to be able to speak with confidence. To feel as if I could. Or should.
I hope you'll do the same here.
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But dire circumstances often force people to abandon whatever notions they possess about what others should and shouldn't do. Naturally I don't need to tell you that.
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I admit that I also expect to be heard. Listened to. It can get on some people's nerves.
[Believe it or not, it's said with a smile.]
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But a drink would be nice.
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Which worked out in my favor, actually.
what is... time...
And here's to having a bit more distance from it. Are you free to meet after work tomorrow?
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[And the risk of frost bite never became more than a joke.]
Which is to say that I'm free until my new job starts. I actually had a start date. So, tomorrow sounds great.
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