Not everyone will say what they feel. It's something you have to expect. You also have to understand that it's not speaking for them or against them because you don't know.
[Handling a crowd is sometimes knowing that the crowd won't chime in.]
It's about doing what we feel is right for who we care about.
For whatever it's worth, Stephen and I set up our proposal to hand off projects that other people had proposed with a basis for getting started, while also saying what we would do to answer the concerns that had been brought up before. We didn't want to be argued out of going forward with who we were, so we said what we were doing and left it at that. Some people still think it's better to be oblique and keep people guessing, but we need to set an outline and let people strongly state an opposing argument against it. If they don't, then we can only do what we feel we must do. And we have to trust our judgments.
The issue is that Rey is insisting that her free will and everyone else's free will should be trusted.
But it shouldn't. Because our contingencies are more directed at either being locked away or not, as well as lawyers. I don't have lawyers where I come from, but I know the rules of the law can be manipulated to get what you want.
[See: being a teenager thrown into solitary for "treason" because she knew things were going poorly.]
[ she certainly has a lot to say. he had a feeling she may be sitting on something since that series of posts had gone up. ]
Rey already made up her mind before she posted. It ended in an argument instead of a discussion.
There are lawyers where I come form. There's a government, and corporations. There was someone who tried to exploit other people by manipulating them into helping him rise to power. He had so much at that time, that he could do anything he wanted to anyone. He hurt a lot of people. Those kind of people won't think twice about us. We're not people to them, just a means to an end.
People in my world who tend to stay in power do so for some desperate means of some kind. Typically. They think they're helping their people.
The sole exception that we've come across were the Primes.
Even then, I could understand why they ended up that way. They had all died during this event near their home, causing everyone to go mad while infected by this toxin that could be activated by an eclipse. The act led to everyone trying, as well as the fleeting hope that they could reverse that in some way. It led to them claiming immortality and tricking their people into handing their bodies over. They forced others to worship them so that they'd be complicit in the system. Handing themselves over.
The people they needed had blood like mine, but it's a recessive gene once it starts to pass on. By time my people landed on their planet, they only had a handful of people like me. So they learned of the things I'd done for my people in my world, and justified taking my life for it. I couldn't be made complicit, but I was deserving all the same.
Once you tell yourself you have the right to do something, almost nothing can take that away.
[ no matter how crazy this all seems, he knows his own story is just as crazy. he knows that the story that they're in now is just as crazy. each word he has to read twice to make sure that he understands. ]
People think they have a right without realizing that they have to balance it with their service. Not just to one group of people. What do you mean by "blood like yours"?
No, but we run the risk of it every time we hand over a little power to someone more powerful.
I mentioned this to Stephen, but I think a lot of us are used to overcoming the impossible to make something happen that works for us and our people. It's hard to accept that it might be different here.
Right now it would be easy to demonize us if you know how to spin it. Yeah, we have to be cautious there. I've been the subject of public opinion before, and it's easily swayed. Not just one way, but back and forth.
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I'm sorry Rey was like that with you.
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It's other people who haven't spoke up I'm worried about.
This will affect everyone.
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It could be that they aren't alarmed. Or afraid.
I think they should be, but they could also be put off by how we approached it and don't want to add fuel to the fire.
And that's not to say no one spoke to her privately.
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I meant everyone's opinions weren't out, so it's hard to tell how everyone feels.
No one should speak for them.
[ but therein lies the unknowing. ]
We can just go on what we know.
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[Handling a crowd is sometimes knowing that the crowd won't chime in.]
It's about doing what we feel is right for who we care about.
For whatever it's worth, Stephen and I set up our proposal to hand off projects that other people had proposed with a basis for getting started, while also saying what we would do to answer the concerns that had been brought up before. We didn't want to be argued out of going forward with who we were, so we said what we were doing and left it at that. Some people still think it's better to be oblique and keep people guessing, but we need to set an outline and let people strongly state an opposing argument against it. If they don't, then we can only do what we feel we must do. And we have to trust our judgments.
The issue is that Rey is insisting that her free will and everyone else's free will should be trusted.
But it shouldn't. Because our contingencies are more directed at either being locked away or not, as well as lawyers. I don't have lawyers where I come from, but I know the rules of the law can be manipulated to get what you want.
[See: being a teenager thrown into solitary for "treason" because she knew things were going poorly.]
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Rey already made up her mind before she posted. It ended in an argument instead of a discussion.
There are lawyers where I come form. There's a government, and corporations. There was someone who tried to exploit other people by manipulating them into helping him rise to power. He had so much at that time, that he could do anything he wanted to anyone.
He hurt a lot of people.
Those kind of people won't think twice about us. We're not people to them, just a means to an end.
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The sole exception that we've come across were the Primes.
Even then, I could understand why they ended up that way. They had all died during this event near their home, causing everyone to go mad while infected by this toxin that could be activated by an eclipse. The act led to everyone trying, as well as the fleeting hope that they could reverse that in some way. It led to them claiming immortality and tricking their people into handing their bodies over. They forced others to worship them so that they'd be complicit in the system. Handing themselves over.
The people they needed had blood like mine, but it's a recessive gene once it starts to pass on. By time my people landed on their planet, they only had a handful of people like me. So they learned of the things I'd done for my people in my world, and justified taking my life for it. I couldn't be made complicit, but I was deserving all the same.
Once you tell yourself you have the right to do something, almost nothing can take that away.
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People think they have a right without realizing that they have to balance it with their service.
Not just to one group of people.
What do you mean by "blood like yours"?
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[Which is also cool, though Clarke just takes it seriously.]
The point is, they used my actions against me to strip me of my body and kill me.
How long until Riverstone starts to do the same?
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I feel the same way.
You shouldn't have to worry about going through something like that again.
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I mentioned this to Stephen, but I think a lot of us are used to overcoming the impossible to make something happen that works for us and our people. It's hard to accept that it might be different here.
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We forgot what we want our part to be in this one.
Eventually we'll have to take a stand and make enemies.
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I have a feeling some people will be looking for opportunities.
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Yeah, we have to be cautious there. I've been the subject of public opinion before, and it's easily swayed.
Not just one way, but back and forth.
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[There weren't enough people.]
We'll be ready for whatever comes our way, and I have plans to help us for whatever comes next.
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I'm hoping to set up a surveillance network around Red Wings. Once we start being more noteworthy, we're going to attract more attention.
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