Don't worry. Nothing will ever top Loki being upset that I shared his relationship that he and Jason publicly announced with you because some version of you and him have an antagonistic relationship.
[As a person in a highly political world? She gets it. But versions of you don't tend to come into play—thankfully. There's just younger and older. It's all less complicated that way.]
But right. Business, back to the same points (which I had to bring up in a separate window to ensure I didn't lose track):
1. Understood. Do you want me to speak to El or would you rather handle it? I believe that Morningstar has taken advantage of these foundational problems before to move people around, so we can only hope it would help now.
2. Sponsorship would help, wouldn't it? Do you know if anyone made connections inside of the simulation here? We can propose this to the group and see what we come up with at the time.
2b. We might want to look for noise cancellation and shooting range materials. It will be a lot of work, but I have a feeling that El will know how to get us the resources so long as we manage payment for them ourselves. I think that might be out of reach, but it could be a Morningstar-affiliated facility if we're willing to split the difference, too. I'm open to flexibility.
3. I think we'll need to rework the guide either way, largely removing some sections with scarce tactics and being more direct at the same time. (Yes, I'm referring to Damian's section.) We'll need to update what we've been through. I was thinking we could recruit, but I don't want to put you in the position of having to temper Damian.
4. That's a good point. I'll ask them, see what they've found out.
[Clarke is an artist, but she's not an interior decorator.
Mostly because she grew up with silver walls and is a bit more ... rustic in what she prefers. (Which is basically, "I don't have a preference.)]
1. We may as well cover 1 and 2b in the same conversation with El. I don't have much of a personal preference on who handles it, but as I'm Morningstar I may be the more convenient bridge. I'll raise both and advise to go to you for more information about the tunnels. As you say, it's not likely to be a problem.
2. I can guess at a couple of people who may have made the best of a bad situation but I'll confess to losing track. [ Haha... wonder why. ] Let's raise it with the rest, see what we can dig up. I can't imagine we'll have too much difficulty gaining sponsorship once we go public, but if we can do it without selling our souls to marketing departments that would be preferable.
2b. I don't have any difficulty sharing ownership with Morningstar. The space was a gift, we owe more than we're owed. If they're willing to help us with the cost and the work and they'll have it back regardless if one day we all up and disappear, the technicalities of ownership and affiliation don't make a difference. I'll bring it to El, see where we land.
3. The update is a necessity, yes.
In the long term we'll also need named individuals with good knowledge and temperament on call to answer questions personally, perhaps even to help others get acquainted with the city. Not everyone is going to be willing or able to go through a document or process it without help and while usually there are enough safehouse visitors to cover early questions, if somebody doesn't end up making a connection in those first days they need to know who they can contact. We can check if those already making a regular effort to visit and settle newcomers are happy making it more official and put a call out for this too. Ideally not so many as to overwhelm, but a cross-section of backgrounds to provide a comfortable contact for as wide a range of people as we can reasonably account for. Create some kind of a safe contact page for El to automatically forward to each new ID as it's generated.
First, thanks for volunteering to take the concerns to El. I do think it's better coming from you, especially since I was notably against Morningstar as an organization early on. Of course, that was a much younger version of myself.
Secondly, we'll ask. I think we can frame our approach to the Displaced as a framework for how we intend to go forward, as well as a series of questions and requests for assistance. We do still need someone to help us out together a powers and skills database.
Finally, with regards to Damian, it looks like I removed most of the originally inflammatory language already. [Foresight.] So no need to worry there.
I'll draft a write up of what we've worked out here together as well as what I can put into the arrival guide and return to you soon.
[Except for the grieving stuff. That's gonna be in there.]
Thanks, Clarke. I'll get in touch with El and let you know the results of our conversation when we come back together, then we can look to speaking to the others.
[ Some time not too long later so I don't forget to mention it in a post-grief hiatus thread, ]
Ze's concerned about the security aspect of incorporating the tunnels. The presence of a door or other evidently fortified opening would be a telling indicator of something on the other side if anyone stumbled across it.
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[As a person in a highly political world? She gets it. But versions of you don't tend to come into play—thankfully. There's just younger and older. It's all less complicated that way.]
But right. Business, back to the same points (which I had to bring up in a separate window to ensure I didn't lose track):
1. Understood. Do you want me to speak to El or would you rather handle it? I believe that Morningstar has taken advantage of these foundational problems before to move people around, so we can only hope it would help now.
2. Sponsorship would help, wouldn't it? Do you know if anyone made connections inside of the simulation here? We can propose this to the group and see what we come up with at the time.
2b. We might want to look for noise cancellation and shooting range materials. It will be a lot of work, but I have a feeling that El will know how to get us the resources so long as we manage payment for them ourselves. I think that might be out of reach, but it could be a Morningstar-affiliated facility if we're willing to split the difference, too. I'm open to flexibility.
3. I think we'll need to rework the guide either way, largely removing some sections with scarce tactics and being more direct at the same time. (Yes, I'm referring to Damian's section.) We'll need to update what we've been through. I was thinking we could recruit, but I don't want to put you in the position of having to temper Damian.
4. That's a good point. I'll ask them, see what they've found out.
[Clarke is an artist, but she's not an interior decorator.
Mostly because she grew up with silver walls and is a bit more ... rustic in what she prefers. (Which is basically, "I don't have a preference.)]
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[ He's a special one. ]
1. We may as well cover 1 and 2b in the same conversation with El. I don't have much of a personal preference on who handles it, but as I'm Morningstar I may be the more convenient bridge. I'll raise both and advise to go to you for more information about the tunnels. As you say, it's not likely to be a problem.
2. I can guess at a couple of people who may have made the best of a bad situation but I'll confess to losing track. [ Haha... wonder why. ] Let's raise it with the rest, see what we can dig up. I can't imagine we'll have too much difficulty gaining sponsorship once we go public, but if we can do it without selling our souls to marketing departments that would be preferable.
2b. I don't have any difficulty sharing ownership with Morningstar. The space was a gift, we owe more than we're owed. If they're willing to help us with the cost and the work and they'll have it back regardless if one day we all up and disappear, the technicalities of ownership and affiliation don't make a difference. I'll bring it to El, see where we land.
3. The update is a necessity, yes.
In the long term we'll also need named individuals with good knowledge and temperament on call to answer questions personally, perhaps even to help others get acquainted with the city. Not everyone is going to be willing or able to go through a document or process it without help and while usually there are enough safehouse visitors to cover early questions, if somebody doesn't end up making a connection in those first days they need to know who they can contact. We can check if those already making a regular effort to visit and settle newcomers are happy making it more official and put a call out for this too. Ideally not so many as to overwhelm, but a cross-section of backgrounds to provide a comfortable contact for as wide a range of people as we can reasonably account for. Create some kind of a safe contact page for El to automatically forward to each new ID as it's generated.
Re: Damian, what are your specific concerns?
4. If you need any input, let me know.
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First, thanks for volunteering to take the concerns to El. I do think it's better coming from you, especially since I was notably against Morningstar as an organization early on. Of course, that was a much younger version of myself.
Secondly, we'll ask. I think we can frame our approach to the Displaced as a framework for how we intend to go forward, as well as a series of questions and requests for assistance. We do still need someone to help us out together a powers and skills database.
Finally, with regards to Damian, it looks like I removed most of the originally inflammatory language already. [Foresight.] So no need to worry there.
I'll draft a write up of what we've worked out here together as well as what I can put into the arrival guide and return to you soon.
[Except for the grieving stuff. That's gonna be in there.]
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Ze's concerned about the security aspect of incorporating the tunnels. The presence of a door or other evidently fortified opening would be a telling indicator of something on the other side if anyone stumbled across it.
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